Dr. Zhana Vrangalova and Ginger Banks
EPISODE 100
“ In these greyer areas where something harmful happened because of a freeze or a fawn kind of scenario, these are actually really good opportunities for everyone to elevate their consent practices for the person who got harmed to really get better and understand better.”
In this special celebratory 100th episode of Open Late, Jessica is joined by her long-time friends Ginger Banks, an adult performer and activist, and Dr. Zhana Vrangalova, an NYU Professor of Sex and Sexuality and renowned sex researcher. Together, they discuss the nature of play parties and the standards organizers should follow, emphasizing the importance of embracing mistakes as a natural part of exploration and growth. The trio shares their own diverse experiences and perspectives, shedding light on how these experiences have shaped their outlook on various subjects. They delve into evolving gender questions and examine the impact of gender on sexual experiences. Consent, safety, and trauma responses are also key topics of discussion, with an emphasis on the significance of obtaining explicit consent and creating a safe environment for all individuals involved. The hosts explore the complexities of trauma and its potential impact on responses within sexual contexts.
In this episode of Open Late:
Nature of play parties and standards for organizers
Embracing mistakes as a part of personal growth
Evolving gender questions and their impact on sexual experiences
Significance of consent, safety, and trauma responses
Time myopia and the role of transgression in sexual exploration
Connect with Ginger:
• Instagram: @thegingerbanks
Connect with Dr.Zhana:
• Website: www.drzhana.com
• Email: zhana@drzhana.com
Connect with Jessica:
• Instagram: @journey.with.jessica | @openlatethepodcast
• Website: openlatepodcast.com
• YouTube: Open Late Podcast
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• Join our free chat community, "Open Talks" on WhatsApp
Quotes from the episode:
17:30 Good and bad things happen at the club, good and bad things happen at sex clubs, good and bad things happen like all over the world and there's no such thing as a perfect space as ultimately a safe space because we're all humans flawed we're all gonna make mistakes. - Ginger Banks
20:00 I think it's really important if someone transgresses us to tell them how they hurt us and how they affected us, because I don't think there's any other way that their behavior is gonna change if we just completely remove ourselves from the situation. - Ginger Banks
39:40 Sometimes people cross boundaries because they themselves are so excited about the situation that they're in their own desire. Their own excitement is sort of overpowering their ability to read these more ambiguous signs that the person is showing in an accurate way. - Dr. Zhana Vrangalova
49:30 Personally, I think it's really important for me to be in my body. It makes it a lot safer that I don't drink because it really does put this time blindness on people it's called myopia where they actually only care about what's happening now, they don't care about the consequences. - Ginger
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Older episodes with
• Ginger: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/open-late/id1587979583?i=1000546411260
• Dr. Zhana: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/open-late/id1587979583?i=1000603261737
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