Jess and Pasha
EPISODE 122
“Jealousy is both a tool and an indicator of something deeper and more prevalent that you can work on.”
In this episode of the Open Late Podcast, after more than a year, Jess welcomes back Pasha, her husband and highly requested guest. Together, they open up about the challenges they've faced and conquered, sharing the intimate details of how they navigated and overcame the struggles that life threw their way. They explore the topic of workaholism, shedding light on how it can impact not only one's personal life but also their relationship, emphasizing the potential consequences when a relationship isn't actively nurtured. They speak openly about their decision to seek therapy, offering insights into why they embarked on this journey together and what they've learned along the way. They also express views on jealousy, discussing how to handle it and why confronting it is important. With the anticipation of their twins' arrival, Jess and Pasha take us through their preparations, they also share their biggest fears and concerns as they look ahead to becoming parents to two precious babies. Furthermore, Jess and Pasha generously devote time to respond to questions from their listeners, offering thoughtful and practical advice on a range of topics, including relationship dynamics and life's unpredictable twists and turns.
In this Episode of Open Late:
Raw insights and dynamics of a polyamorous marriage
Overcoming personal challenges and addressing jealousy
The impact of workaholism on your relationship
Couples Therapy and why is it okay to seek it
Preparations for the twins and the biggest fears
Mentioned in the Episode:
• Podcast: Your Partner is NOT your superhero
Connect with Pasha:
• Instagram: @pashaesfandiary
Connect with Jessica:
• Instagram: @journey.with.jessica | @openlatethepodcast
• Website: openlatepodcast.com
• YouTube: Open Late Podcast
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• Join our free chat community, "Open Talks" on WhatsApp
5:18 We've always been like such an open book with each other, and that's always worked for us because we love open communication. We love to over communicate, and we never wanted to have any secrets. - Jessica Esfandiary
6:20 I'm looking for something meaningful right now. I'm not looking for just hookups. - Pasha Esfandiary
9:46 Especially moving into this season of becoming a mom is like, I know how sacred my energy is and I do have a lot of it right now - Jessica Esfandiary
10:07 Meaningful connections are always great, but I also just am in the season where I love the physical. - Jessica Esfandiary
14:04 I feel like we're a family unit now, like we're making family decisions based on what's best for us as a whole instead of what's best for us individually. - Pasha Esfandiary
14:49 Everyone always wonders if it's the non-monogamy and seeing other people that will make you grow apart and there are so many reasons why relationships will have hard times. - Jessica Esfandiary
16:09 I think that I and you as well took our relationship for granted and didn't realize that it was like its own living organism that needed care and attention and focus truly, and that it needs to have like energy poured into it. - Jessica Esfandiary
18:48 I think it's really important to know that I've made a massive effort that after five or 6:00, there's no work. - Pasha Esfandiary
23:09 Jealousy is a tool and an indicator to something that you can work on that is deeper and more prevalent -Pasha Esfandiary
22:44 Do the emotional labor because you're going to find all the gems under there. - Jessica Esfandiary
28:34 I don't want to ever let my kids feel like I wasn't there for them. - Pasha Esfandiary
34:09 Stepping into fatherhood is literally the biggest thing I will ever do in my life. - Pasha Esfandiary
40:33 At some point any new partner you get will not satisfy every single one of your needs to the way that we have dreamed up in our society. - Pasha Esfandiary
44:08 Being with other people can create more desire and chemistry within your own relationship -Jessica Esfandiary
47:02 I think the only really big reason why people get afraid of this kind of relationship is because, if they're having sex with somebody else, they're cheating on you and they're going to leave you, which is not the case at all. - Pasha Esfandiary
47:44 Men are more afraid of what other men will think, than they might even be jealous or insecure that their partner is going to leave them. - Jessica Esfandiary
49:17 People become more understanding with education and just if you're authentic, they're going to be authentic too. - Pasha Esfandiary
51:58 I do see myself coming back and see this show growing and evolving with me as I become a mom, a polyamorous mother of twins. - Jessica Esfandiary
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